kw (Cornish)

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String Key

en-US

Version

stuff

stuff

devnydh

1

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
faceplate. mediafound

Media Found:

Media kevys:

1

treylyer
faceplate. items

items

taklennow

1

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
faceplate. welcome

Welcome to Songbird

Songbird a'th tynergh

3

treylyer
faceplate. select

Select A Media File

Dewis Restrenn Media

1

treylyer
faceplate. scan

If you would like to scan for media, please choose a folder:

Mar mynnydh hwilas media, dewis kystenn mar pleg:

1

treylyer
servicesource. welcome

Welcome

Dynnargh

2

treylyer
servicesource. library

Library

Lyverva

1

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
servicesource. playlists

Playlists

Sonrolyow

2

treylyer
servicesource. bookmarks

Bookmarks

Lyvermerkyow

1

treylyer
servicesource. music_stores

Music Stores

Gwerthjiow Ilow

1

treylyer
servicesource. podcasts

Podcasts

Kodhethliansow

1

treylyer
servicesource. radio

Radio

Diwiver

1

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
servicesource. searches

Searches

Helghyow

2

treylyer
servicesource. net. services

Network Services

Gonisow Roesweyth

1

treylyer
servicesource. net. devices

Network Devices

Jynnow Roesweyth

1

treylyer
metadata. id

##

##

0

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
metadata. row_id

#

#

0

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
metadata. uuid

Media UUID

UUID an Media

1

treylyer
metadata. service_uuid

Service UUID

UUID an Gonis

1

treylyer
metadata. url

Location

Tyller

1

treylyer
metadata. content_type

Content Type

Eghenn a Synsas

1

treylyer
metadata. length

Time

Termyn

1

treylyer
metadata. artist

Artist

Gwarior

2

treylyer
metadata. title

Title

Titel

1

treylyer
metadata. album

Album

Kuntilow

2

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah
metadata. genre

Genre

Eghenn

1

treylyer
metadata. composer

Composer

Skrifer an Ilow

1

treylyer
metadata. producer

Producer

Askorrer

1

treylyer
metadata. rating

Rating

Merk

1

treylyer

Comments for kw (Cornish)

41 Comments:

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Wed, 03/05/2008 - 08:03AM

treylyer Says: Tue, 03/11/2008 - 04:03AM

Need to decide whether to use the plural 'you' all the way through or the singular. There was a mixture - I've made them all singular (so affects your 'a'gas dynergh'. Also you had 'dynergh' with one n (I left it so as not to cause offence....) but 'dynnergh' with two (I changed to 'dynnargh' but left both n).

treylyer Says: Tue, 03/11/2008 - 04:03AM

And the next problem...nobody says "PA", do they? Either "plasenn arghans" in full or "sidi" surely?
I'd go for "sidi" since the alternative is a mouthful, unless you really like "PA". Will stop at this point and wait for your opinion. (I have to say that if "PA" had popped up on my screen out of the blue, I wouldn't have known what it means).

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Wed, 03/12/2008 - 12:03PM

Thats absolutely fine. It will all have to be re-sone in the SWF at some point anyway so if there was a problem with the spelling and the grammar then I agree with the change.

On 'PA': having only been learning for 10 weeks and being the only person interested in translating Songbird for quite a while I became disheartened and decided to translate some strings, which I wasnt confident with, just to get some more of the job done.

Thanks very much for joining in =]

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Wed, 03/12/2008 - 12:03PM

'ALBUM'

I was thinking we could use::
'kuntell'...'collection'
or
Follow the Welsh and use a Cornish spelling system version of the English word, which would remain the same; 'album'.

Third option is to combine music(ilow) and collection(kuntell) to make 'kuntilow' (or something similar).

Either way it'll be up to this forum to decide, seeing as new/modern, words/translations are developed through popular usage and not often through academic intervention.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Wed, 03/12/2008 - 12:03PM

CD/PA/Sidi

Again it's a matter of bringing a new word around through popular usage.
If Songbird does turn out to be as popular/more popular than itunes then it may be the way new speakers become accustomed to these new words.

'Sidi' is more aestheticaly pleasing than 'PA' and more understandable.
However, every other language uses 'CD'.

I'll leave it up to you.

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You singular or plural::

It would be more friendly to use the singular so I agree with your changes.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Wed, 03/12/2008 - 12:03PM

DOWNLOAD

Ok, last post before you catch up.
Seeing as the English is straight forward and self descriptive then a direct translation might fit...'warbegh'

What are your thoughts on this?

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 12:03PM

OK, 'kuntell' for 'album' (I was agonising over it for various reasons, but can't come up with anything better).
'iskarga' is already used for the verb 'download' so I thin we should keep it even though it really means 'low load'!! Even Google finds it (once!).
The problem with "CD" is that the letters are not pronounced that way in Cornish even though people say it the way it is in English, if you see what I mean. And Google finds "sidi" too (try "sidi kernewek").

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 12:03PM

What do you think "track added to" means? If it means "track added to...something" then it's 'hyns keworrys dhe..." but if it means "the track has been added to" it's something like "keworrys dhe'n hyns". It's difficult to translate out of context like this.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:03PM

So would 'kuntilow' not be a better option? Im not sure if the word 'album' has been used extensively in translation.
I realy think that if we have got a little bit of room to move inhere that 'kuntilow' would be the better option.
I've had my say on it though so unless you want to discuss it some more the final choice is yours.

How extensively is 'iskarga' used?

Ok, I agree with 'Sidi'.

Im pretty sure it means 'track added to album/list/cd etc...'

Nosdan Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:03PM

Don't you think the words like play and pause should be the imperitive? 'Son'/'Hok' and 'Iskarga' as far as I know is used quite a bit!

Nosdan Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:03PM

'war-woeles' shouldn't this be 'yn-nans'

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:03PM

Nosdan::

I had considered that myself on a few words but, being only a beginner, I assumed that Treylyer would be more aware of the correct terms..

As Treylyer has said it is becoming more difficult to judge the proper use within this context.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 01:03PM

ok ok, ill leave it... I was hoping it wasnt used so that we could have warbergh, because I prefer the look and sound of that.
Plus it has a more straight forward meaning. =p

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 02:03PM

If a button is marked 'pause' it's not a command telling you to pause, it's a description of the button - if you press it, it will pause. The only word you could have on a button that was an imperative would be 'press'! That sounds a bit dismissive, but when I've seen this kind of thing in Cornish before, the verbal noun has been used - 'seni', 'hokya' etc. It now feels right to me - it's a kind of neutral concept 'play(ing)', 'pause(ing)'.
Put it another way. If a message came up saying "remove USB stick" that would be an imperative. Whereas if it were on a button it would be saying "once you've pressed this you can remove the USB stick" (no imperative) - so if the imperative were used, you'd do what it said and remove the stick without pressing the button and disaster would result.
I'm not sure I've even convinced myself so don't take too much notice.

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 02:03PM

kuntilow - I was trying something like this too, but album covers music and pictures and I wasn't sure whether in this context 'album' would always mean a record album. So I gave up.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 03:03PM

In English it covers music and pictures.
That doesn't necessarily have to be true of Cornish.
We do need to wrap it up quickly though seeing as it's going to be a very common word.

Personally I think that 'Collection' is very broad and vague and that creating a word from two words, whilst still being able to understand its origins and what it's trying to convey, is acceptable in circumstances where there isn't an appropriate translation.

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 03:03PM

OK...but what I meant was, in SONGBIRD it might have to cover both music and pictures, and you can't tell how the word will be used out of context like this.
Go for kuntilow.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 03:03PM

As yet (version 0.4) they don't have an picture album, it's part of an external add on.
I'm guessing it will become a feature in the Beta stages but I think it's safe to say that 'album' refers to a music album at this time.

I'll install the new language pack and have a look now.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 03:03PM

On page 8 you've translated::

'Songbird needs a QuickTime plug-in to play Windows Media files. Would you like to learn more about Windows Media Support?'

into

'Songbird a edhomm a Plug-in QuickTime rag seni restrennow Media Fenestri. A vynnydh dyski moy a-dro dhe Skoedhyans Media Fenestri?'

Seeing as 'Windows' is a trade name rather than a word it may be better to leave it un-translated, seeing as it's more recognisable.

treylyer Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 04:03PM

OK. Although people do say 'Fenestri'. I think avoiding anything remotely English is a particular, and probably peculiar, Cornish speakers' habit. I don't mind either way, and by all means just change stuff that you think would be better expressed some other way.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 06:03PM

If it's widely used and people immediately understand that you are talking about the operating system the I guess it could be the better choice.

However, I think that trade names are beyond language. they are names rather than words.
It should be based upon a legal perspective rather than from a language/national one. Can/do people from different languages change corporate names
outside of the company doing it themselves?

Tough choice, that's why I ask rather than just change... (plus you guys have been doing this far longer than I have)

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Thu, 03/13/2008 - 06:03PM

Oh and can we really use 'Da Lowr' as a term of acceptance 'OK'?
I guess 'Good Enough' could work... again, you guys are more experienced.
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Please feel free to just change mine if the grammar is wrong or the whole translation is wrong in general.
I'm bound to mess up so I expect some of mine to be deleted.

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 02:03AM

I would say Windows should remain english... however - if talking about a window (on your screen) then fenester.

I use 'Da lowr' as ok, i can't see a problem using it although, 'Da' could also be used if you want a short snappy word.

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 02:03AM

I think we need some distinction between cancel- 'dilea' and Delete - 'dilea'

Cancel could follow the welsh - 'dirymu' and use 'dinertha'

treylyer Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 03:03AM

"Da lowr" only means "good enough" as a literal translation. It's what everyone says as a general grunt of agreement. In most contexts it would be very odd if you translated it as "good enough" but spot on if you translated it as "OK". "A vynn'ta mos dhe Druru?" "Da lowr!".
I'm in two minds about cancel/delete. What is the difference? Just because English cancels a train but deletes a word, does Cornish do the same? French, I'm told, uses 'supprimer' for both, just as Cornish could use 'dilea' for both.
On the other hand, if Welsh makes a sensible distinction (anyone speak Breton?) I'd be quite happy to coin something for 'cancel'.

treylyer Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 03:03AM

I didn't mean I'd be happy to do the coining. I meant "I'd be quite happy for something to be coined for 'cancel'".

treylyer Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 03:03AM

"Mini player" - page 9 I did 'Korrseniell" and page 10, TTGFITS, you did "Senierboghes".
"Seniell" is better than "Senier" because the "er" suffix is for people and the "ell" suffix is for equipment (some words coined years ago don't quite follow these rules, mind you!).
I don't really like "boghes" and "korr" (dwarf) is used in words like "korrweler" (microscope) and "korrdonn" (microwave) so I'm voting for "Korrseniell". Open to being convinced otherwise though!

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 06:03AM

In coining a new word for an tool... isn't it the root of the verb.

Korrsonell? - I think its unusual to see the last vowel in the verb next to -ell

treylyer Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 03:03AM

Page 11 - we can't have 'lymner' for 'artist' because it has the root 'to paint/draw/illustrate' in it. 'Lymner' is a person that produces pictures. 'Senier' might be possible. But having thought about it for a while, I think 'artydh' is better since it is even more general.

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 06:03AM

When stuck with new words... and you want a comparison of a welsh word, have a look at this site:

http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/fun/welsh/LexiconForms.html

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 11:03AM

Page 14:: Icon

My suggestions are..
imaj korr - dwarf image
liwyans korr - dwarf picture
or wait till the Welsh translate it.

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 12:03PM

I agree with the change from Senierboghes to Korrsonell/Korrseniell

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 12:03PM

Are you guys using Songbird to test this or just translating as you go along?
It helps a lot with context.
you have to use the 0.3 version though because 0.4 doesnt allow you to use new language packs.

0.3 is here..
http://download.songbirdnest.com/installer/windows/i686/Songbird_0.3_windows-i686.exe
thats assuming youre using Windows, which unfortunately I am.

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 01:03PM

Tried using the language pack and nothing changes...? have you got it working?

Also why doesnt it show how much we've translated? The little green dot i mean.

Nosdan Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 02:03PM

What do you guys feel we should do about SWF? Hopefully it should be sorted very soon. It think it's right that we amend...

thingsthatgoflirintheschlah Says: Fri, 03/14/2008 - 04:03PM

You definitely need to be using version 0.3 for it to work..
Go to Tools> Add ons
Then click install in the bottom left corner and select the xpi file you downloaded.
It will ask you to restart.

I think the important issue is to get all the strings translated. If we don't submit a full language pack by the final release then we won't have a Cornish language option.
It's a simple task for someone to change the spellings to suit SWF.

There is a bug with the tally system at the moment, hence no sign of progress on our little pie chart.

treylyer Says: Sun, 03/16/2008 - 02:03PM

You're right, Nosdan. I prefer Korrsonell too - I didn't think enough about it and just changed the original Senier into Seniell and took it from there. Must try harder.
I agree with TTGFITS - just get translations done, even if they are in four systems. People are already beginning to argue over just what is in the SWF and what isn't - if we're not careful this initiative will get hit by that. It can be changed later, once everyone has agreed...

treylyer Says: Mon, 03/17/2008 - 01:03AM

Well it now tells us how many strings we've translated at the top. The only problem is, it doesn't register any edits I make at the moment, so we may never get to finish the job.

treylyer Says: Mon, 03/17/2008 - 01:03AM

At least, it did say how many strings two minutes ago. Now it's back to 0 again! I think we're experiencing "technical difficulties".

treylyer Says: Mon, 03/17/2008 - 04:03AM

Page 17 - what is a 'console' in this context? Any ideas for a translation (konsol?) ? What is 'cool' as in 'this is cool text'? Could go with 'mygyl' but that might be too hot!!